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Autor:  patrick
E-mail:  não-disponível
Data:  24/NOV/2013 6:53 PM
Assunto:  Startup money
 
Mensagem:  Well, that's fine. If the students only wish to achieve a proficiency sufficient that a native speaker or fluent ESL speaker (non-Portuguese speaker, obviously) can more or less understand them in certain specific contexts, a business context as mentioned, then fine. However, in fact, and I believe this well known, the language is the native-speakers. Therefor to learn from a non-native is substandard by definition. It does not mean that very native-speaker is a good teacher, mind you. Two different things.

So if you are very near-native in proficiency, then good for you. Some people can achieve it a short time, others never can, we know that is the reality. For example, I have no doubt that even if I spent the rest of my life in brazil, I would never achieve near-native fluency and accent. I think I could be quite fluent, but never quasi-nativo.


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Startup money  –  leonam  22/NOV/2013, 2:33 PM
Startup money  –  Fran  23/NOV/2013, 6:53 AM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 12:54 AM
Startup money  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 5:17 AM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 12:41 PM
Startup money  –  Josi  24/NOV/2013, 1:12 PM
Startup money  –  patrick  24/NOV/2013, 2:18 PM
Startup money  –  Josi  24/NOV/2013, 3:33 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 4:53 PM
Startup money  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 5:12 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 5:59 PM
Startup money  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 6:12 PM
 Startup money  –  patrick  24/NOV/2013, 6:53 PM
Startup money  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 7:34 PM
Startup money  –  patrick  24/NOV/2013, 6:56 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 7:26 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 7:37 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 7:39 PM
Startup money, about C2 CEFR  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 7:51 PM
Startup money, about C2 CEFR  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 8:04 PM
Startup money, about C2 CEFR  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 8:16 PM
Startup money  –  pat  24/NOV/2013, 9:25 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  25/NOV/2013, 1:29 AM
Startup money  –  pat  25/NOV/2013, 1:35 AM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  Fran  25/NOV/2013, 4:21 PM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  pat  25/NOV/2013, 5:00 PM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  leonam  25/NOV/2013, 7:48 PM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  Fran  25/NOV/2013, 8:33 PM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  pat  25/NOV/2013, 11:39 PM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  Fran  27/NOV/2013, 11:18 AM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  pat  27/NOV/2013, 6:14 PM

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