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Autor:  pat
E-mail:  não-disponível
Data:  25/NOV/2013 5:00 PM
Assunto:  Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U
 
Mensagem:  I quite agree, Fran.

Foreign language instruction in the US is a silly business for the most part. Even if all the teachers were native-speakers (and some are, of course), most kids would get nothing lasting from it. I went to school in Florida and Spanish was the main second language offered in schools there. The teacher was not a native-speaker I don't believe. The only thing I remember about it was my surprise at how much of the vocabulary was clearly related etymologically, between spanish and english (and of course, as I now know, between a discrete part of modern english vocabulary and all Romance tongues). I took it again in high-school, from a near-native speaking teacher raised in Texas, and again retained next to nothing and never achieved any ability to understand spoken in any case.

I suspect that brazilian kids, if they take english in public school, also retain little or nothing. The primary example of school systems predictably inculcating a second language fluently into kids, in this case english, is in Holland, Germany, and Scandinavia. I've often wondered about this large exception to the rule.  There are probably a number of factors. One not often raised could be the basic underlying kinship between the modern Germanic languages and English - for speakers of those languages who are motivated, and especially at a young age, english as another germanic language may be easier to again fluency in than a Romance language, or Slavic, or even more distant one.


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 English Made in Brazil -- English, Portuguese, & contrastive linguistics
Startup money  –  leonam  22/NOV/2013, 2:33 PM
Startup money  –  Fran  23/NOV/2013, 6:53 AM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 12:54 AM
Startup money  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 5:17 AM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 12:41 PM
Startup money  –  Josi  24/NOV/2013, 1:12 PM
Startup money  –  patrick  24/NOV/2013, 2:18 PM
Startup money  –  Josi  24/NOV/2013, 3:33 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 4:53 PM
Startup money  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 5:12 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 5:59 PM
Startup money  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 6:12 PM
Startup money  –  patrick  24/NOV/2013, 6:53 PM
Startup money  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 7:34 PM
Startup money  –  patrick  24/NOV/2013, 6:56 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 7:26 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 7:37 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 7:39 PM
Startup money, about C2 CEFR  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 7:51 PM
Startup money, about C2 CEFR  –  leonam  24/NOV/2013, 8:04 PM
Startup money, about C2 CEFR  –  Fran  24/NOV/2013, 8:16 PM
Startup money  –  pat  24/NOV/2013, 9:25 PM
Startup money  –  leonam  25/NOV/2013, 1:29 AM
Startup money  –  pat  25/NOV/2013, 1:35 AM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  Fran  25/NOV/2013, 4:21 PM
 Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  pat  25/NOV/2013, 5:00 PM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  leonam  25/NOV/2013, 7:48 PM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  Fran  25/NOV/2013, 8:33 PM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  pat  25/NOV/2013, 11:39 PM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  Fran  27/NOV/2013, 11:18 AM
Startup money - foreign language teaching in the U  –  pat  27/NOV/2013, 6:14 PM

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