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Autor:  Tiago T.
E-mail:  não-disponível
Data:  30/AGO/2009 4:55 PM
Assunto:  mayor/principal
 
Mensagem: 
What I meant by "call out" is the vocative case, which is a form of addressing a person directly. If you've ever yelled a person's name to call his/her attention, you've used the vocative case. In Portuguese, the vocative expression is always surrounded by commas. For example:

Senhor Diretor, por favor leia esta carta com atenção.
Sinto-me agradecido pela colaboração, Senhor Diretor.

Notice that the salutation of the letter is just another way of calling out the person, so the same expression applies.

What I meant by "refer" is any situation in which you want to talk about the principal, but not call him out directly. This is the regular use of pronouns, so you can use this form to replace the word "você," for example. Because you're using "pronomes de tratamento," the reference will be always in the third person singular. In this case, commas are not used. For example:

Espero que Vossa Senhoria entenda meu ponto de vista.
Aguardo ansiosamente a resposta de Vossa Senhoria.

In your examples, you're not calling out the principal, so "Vossa Senhoria" would be the way to go:

Vossa Senhoria tem um escritório lindíssimo.
Vossa Senhoria não chegou ainda, João. O carro dele teve pane.

In the last sentence, "Vossa Senhoria" is a regular pronoun, but "João" is a vocative.

Did I make myself clear?

Tiago


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 English Made in Brazil -- English, Portuguese, & contrastive linguistics
mayor/principal  –  Dale-CR  29/AGO/2009, 2:08 AM
mayor/principal  –  PPAULO  29/AGO/2009, 11:19 AM
mayor/principal  –  Dale-CR  29/AGO/2009, 1:05 PM
mayor/principal  –  PPAULO  29/AGO/2009, 5:51 PM
mayor/principal  –  Tiago T.  29/AGO/2009, 10:39 PM
mayor/principal  –  Dale-CR  29/AGO/2009, 9:36 PM
mayor/principal  –  Dale-CR  30/AGO/2009, 12:52 AM
 mayor/principal  –  Tiago T.  30/AGO/2009, 4:55 PM
mayor/principal  –  PPAULO  30/AGO/2009, 5:30 PM
mayor/principal  –  Tiago T.  30/AGO/2009, 10:39 PM
mayor/principal  –  Tiago T.  30/AGO/2009, 10:55 PM
mayor/principal  –  PPAULO  31/AGO/2009, 12:01 AM
mayor/principal  –  PPAULO  31/AGO/2009, 12:04 AM
mayor/principal  –  PPAULO  31/AGO/2009, 12:08 AM
mayor/principal  –  Tiago T.  31/AGO/2009, 12:41 AM
mayor/principal  –  PPAULO  31/AGO/2009, 1:00 AM
mayor/principal  –  PPAULO  30/AGO/2009, 8:31 AM
mayor/principal  –  Dale-CR  30/AGO/2009, 1:45 PM
mayor/principal  –  CR  30/AGO/2009, 3:07 PM
mayor/principal  –  PPAULO  30/AGO/2009, 4:51 PM
mayor/principal  –  PPAULO  30/AGO/2009, 5:21 PM
mayor/principal Oops...!  –  PPAULO  30/AGO/2009, 8:15 PM
PPaulo and Thiago T are awesome  –  Deivis  31/AGO/2009, 7:04 PM
PPaulo and Thiago T are awesome  –  PPAULO  31/AGO/2009, 8:32 PM
PPaulo and Thiago T are awesome  –  Dale-CR  31/AGO/2009, 9:52 PM
Dale is awesome...  –  PPAULO  31/AGO/2009, 10:26 PM
Dale is awesome...  –  Dale-CR  01/SET/2009, 12:40 AM
Dale is awesome...  –  PPAULO  01/SET/2009, 1:50 AM
Dale is awesome...  –  Deivis  01/SET/2009, 6:50 PM

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