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Autor:  pat
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Data:  11/FEV/2003 9:26 PM
Assunto:  Re: Clarification
 
Mensagem:  Miguel, Firstly, it seems you may have thought I made that posting about going to India. I can assure you I did not, it isn't my style to pretend to be someone else. Secondly, I see that you have read the book "How the Irish became white". Quite interesting isn't it? Obviously, it doesn't make any sense unless one considers "white" and "black" to be entirely philosophical or social labels. Under that reasoning anyone can join any ethnic group they want, which really isn't the case - is it? If I, looking as Anglo as I do, decided to be "black" tomorrow, what would be the result? It is true that when the Irish-catholics first started coming to this country in the early to mid 19thC they identified strongly with the "free" blacks living in the northern slums, because they received a similar kind of mistreatment from the established Anglo-American elite. They were mistreated primarily for religous reasons (the ongoing persecution of Irish catholics by the English), it obviously had nothing to do with color. After a few decades, they realized that they had to distance themselves from blacks to better their own condition - and so became quite racist in general. Some of my ancestors were of this group, and some were earlier Irish-Protestant immigrants who did not experience the same religous persecution. The fact is that from the beginning America has been ruled by a minority of upper-class white and still mostly Anglo Americans. This class only cares about keeping the wealthy powerful, they don't care about working-class whites or anyone else. This is likely to continue for a long time to come, even though the sum total of minority ethnic groups outnumbers whites. The reason is because whites vote at a much higher percentage than minorities.


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 English Made in Brazil -- English, Portuguese, & contrastive linguistics
Clarification  –  Miguel Vieira  11/FEV/2003, 6:27 PM
Re: Clarification  –  José Roberto  11/FEV/2003, 7:33 PM
Re: Clarification  –  Jonas  11/FEV/2003, 8:49 PM
 Re: Clarification  –  pat  11/FEV/2003, 9:26 PM
Re: Clarification  –  Miguel Vieira  12/FEV/2003, 3:44 PM
Re: Clarification  –  pat  12/FEV/2003, 9:25 PM
Re: Clarification  –  Miguel Vieira  12/FEV/2003, 9:53 PM
Re: Clarification  –  pat  12/FEV/2003, 11:20 PM
Re: Clarification  –  Miguel Vieira  13/FEV/2003, 3:14 PM
Re: Clarification  –  pat  13/FEV/2003, 9:42 PM
Re: Clarification  –  Miguel Vieira  14/FEV/2003, 3:45 PM
Re: Clarification  –  pat  14/FEV/2003, 4:50 PM
Re: Clarification  –  Miguel Vieira  14/FEV/2003, 6:46 PM
Re: Clarification  –  Miguel Vieira  15/FEV/2003, 3:11 PM
Re: Clarification  –  pat  15/FEV/2003, 5:05 PM
Re: Clarification  –  José Roberto  16/FEV/2003, 12:39 AM
Re: Clarification  –  pat  16/FEV/2003, 3:00 PM
Re: Clarification  –  José Roberto  16/FEV/2003, 11:46 PM
Re: Clarification  –  Miguel Vieira  16/FEV/2003, 4:19 PM
Re: Clarification  –  pat  17/FEV/2003, 3:33 PM
Re: Clarification  –  Miguel Vieira  18/FEV/2003, 2:33 PM

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