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Autor:  Tiago T.
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Data:  27/NOV/2005 10:35 AM
Assunto:  Maria Valeska
 
Mensagem:  pat wrote:
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Your example - "eating outdoors", or mine - "he ran outdoors", are incomplete, and very incorrect and misleading in the former case especially. Literally that would mean to consume the outdoors, a big task, aye?  Although rarely said correctly and fully, they should be "eating out-of-doors" or "he ran out-of-doors".  I think if you  remember that  'outdoors' is an informal and shortened form of  'out-of-doors',  three seperate words which cannot  be combined into one adverb, that will make it more clear. 
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I'm not sure either, but I think of it in another way. The original expression "out-of-doors" (in the example above) could be classified as an adverbial phrase of place (locução adverbial de lugar), since it modifies the verb "eating", adding to it an idea of place. When the original expression got shortened to "outdoors", the most natural was to classify it, in this sense, as an adverb. Afterall, that's what adverbs do: they modify a verb, adding to it an idea of place, time, manner, degree, etc.

pat wrote:
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Let's try another example : "eating in the bathtub". Does that make 'bathtub' an adverb? Acho que nao. 'in-the-bathtub' if used very frequently as a term could eventually be shortened to 'intub' or some such. Still it would not be an adverb.
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The expression "in the bathtub" is in fact an adverbial phrase of place (the word "bathtub" itself is just a noun). If the expression were eventually shortened to "intub", I'd find logical to classify it as an adverb of place, since it still modifies the verb "eating", adding to it an idea of place.


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 English Made in Brazil -- English, Portuguese, & contrastive linguistics
Maria Valeska  –  Miguel Vieira  25/NOV/2005, 7:07 PM
Maria Valeska  –  Rodolfo  25/NOV/2005, 7:56 PM
Maria Valeska  –  Miguel Vieira  25/NOV/2005, 8:07 PM
Maria Valeska  –  André Oliveira  26/NOV/2005, 9:35 AM
Maria Valeska  –  pat  26/NOV/2005, 10:37 AM
Maria Valeska  –  pat  26/NOV/2005, 10:49 AM
Maria Valeska  –  Rick Leal  26/NOV/2005, 11:29 AM
Adverbs  –  André Oliveira  27/NOV/2005, 6:59 AM
Adverbs  –  pat  27/NOV/2005, 10:30 AM
Adverbs  –  André Oliveira  27/NOV/2005, 11:01 PM
Maria Valeska  –  Regina  27/NOV/2005, 4:01 PM
Maria Valeska  –  Lou  27/NOV/2005, 6:42 PM
Maria Valeska  –  Fabricioaugusto  26/NOV/2005, 1:18 PM
Maria Valeska  –  Miguel Vieira  26/NOV/2005, 5:57 PM
Maria Valeska  –  pat  26/NOV/2005, 8:21 PM
 Maria Valeska  –  Tiago T.  27/NOV/2005, 10:35 AM

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