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Autor:  José Roberto
E-mail:  josezambon@merconet.com.br
Data:  27/OUT/2003 12:33 AM
Assunto:  Re: hast thou ever?
 
Mensagem:  Eia Pat Have you ever...= Você já.... Have ever been to São Paulo? =gt; Você já esteve em São Paulo. (or eventually "Você conhece São Paulo?") Have you ever seen the Pacific Ocean?=gt; Você já viu o oceano Pacífico (or eventually "Você conhece o oceano Pacífico?") What happens with the Present Perfect is that there is no counterpart which matches in Portuguese, sometimes you have to use the Present Simple in Portuguese (Presente do Indicativo) sometimes the Portuguese Past Simple (Pretérito Perfeito) and sometimes the Portuguese Present Perfect (Presente composto do indicativo) it is not an easy task both from Portuguese to English and the other way round. I wouldn't say that English structure is more or less difficult than the Portuguese structure, but I can surely say that as English being a teutonic-origined language when one compares it to Portuguese, a latin-origined language, the structural differences are very out on the titles, the examples you gave are the ones of phonetic origins, different words with the same pronunciation or different pronunciation that are misperceived by a BP (Brazilian Portuguese) spekear, on the other hand Spanish is always claimed to be the easiest language that a Portuguese speaker can understand, although the avarege Brazilian can understand a Spanish-speaker in a certain degree, and not having studied it, both language are so "equal" that the differences tend to be put apart, which makes the learning of Spanish by a Brazilian kind of deceiving or tricky. José Roberto PS: Hast thou ever...?=gt; Tu já....?


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 English Made in Brazil -- English, Portuguese, & contrastive linguistics
hast thou ever?  –  pat  26/OUT/2003, 3:20 PM
Re: hast thou ever?  –  Miguel Vieira  26/OUT/2003, 5:56 PM
Re: hast thou ever?  –  pat  26/OUT/2003, 8:34 PM
Re: hast thou ever?  –  Ran  26/OUT/2003, 9:14 PM
Re: hast thou ever?  –  m robertson  27/OUT/2003, 12:03 AM
Re: hast thou ever?  –  pat  27/OUT/2003, 9:42 AM
Re: hast thou ever?  –  michael r  27/OUT/2003, 11:07 AM
Re: hast thou ever?  –  José Roberto  27/OUT/2003, 11:32 AM
Re: hast thou ever?  –  José Roberto  27/OUT/2003, 11:33 AM
Re: hast thou ever?  –  pat  27/OUT/2003, 5:35 PM
 Re: hast thou ever?  –  José Roberto  27/OUT/2003, 12:33 AM
Re: hast thou ever?  –  Lucas  27/OUT/2003, 5:04 AM

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